and what he did during -- what did lincoln do? as far as these people are concerned, he wiped out the south. but he didn't finish, so what the left is admitting today that they are doing is once -- trying to finish it off. lincoln did not fully finish. they're all focused on gods and guns in the south. they love both of them. and so the south has to be wiped out again. i'm telling you, essentially there is an all-out effort being made to marginalize conservatism. >> reminds me of radio rwanda in the bad old days. it's been far right republicans obviously doing all the civil war talk. they're the ones talking about the civil war, about nullification of federal laws and all the secession petitions out there. >>> before house republicans head off for their annual retreat this week, i think it's in williamsburg, the democratic congressional campaign committee offered up some suggestions for planned activities and classes. how to stop talking about legitimate rape and insulting women, science 101, creating tax breaks and tax shelters f